WILLIAM SANDERS OBIT. 1910. SMH.
The Sydney Morning Herald… Friday 23 December 1910,
WILLIAM AND MARY ANN SANDERS arrived in the Colony per VICTORIA on 4-9-1849. Their first child ELIZABETH GRACE was born at Horsely in 1850. Apparently they went to THOMAS SANDERS or his family in this western area of Sydney. They then moved North via the New England and eventually to the MCLEAY RIVER where they made their home. In 1852 HARRIET FRANCES was born at YARRABANDINI as was WILLIAM GEORGE in 1854. FREDERICK JOHN was born on the MCLEAY RIVER in 1855 and CHARLES HENRY at AUSTRAL EDEN in 1860.
Yarrabandini, Mcleay River, Kempsey, NSW was a station 19,200 acres owned by R. Searle that I have listed in 1865
The next three children were born at FLATTORINI ISLAND in 1861,62 and 64. They were ALFRED SIVERT, ERNEST ALBERT and MARY ANN.
The next 5 children were all born in KINCHELA. WALTER,AGNES,EDRED,SARAH and CHRISTOPHER who was accidentally shot by his brother when he was 9 years old and killed.
FLATTORINI ISLAND has my attention today. Looking through the NLA digitised newspapers – I come across the word FATTORINI and am beginning to consider that the Island may well have derived from that name.
I have a mention of DR FATTORINI. In 1830 he is mentioned as one of the medical men treating the poor of Sydney at the SYDNEY INFORMARY. Other medicos mentioned are DRS BLAND, MITCHELL, FORSTER AND JEANNERET.
He is also an Honorary Surgeon with the Benevolent Society. In October 1830, a MR MOWATT was robbed by villains. Amongst the takings by the thieves were bills drawn by DR FATTORINI for considerable sums of money. Two villains were involved in the robbery . One was a short man dressed in a black hat, velveteen jacket and dark trowsers. The other was thin and wore a straw hat. An old straw hat. He had dark skin and ” to the best of Mr Mowatt’s recollection” wore whiskers. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2196392
On the 11th April 1831 – one AUGUSTUS ANTONIO was attended By Dr Fattorini and Dr McTiernan at the TALBOT INN BRICKFIELD-HILL. He had succumbed to deliterious fumes from one of the vats which were were a-brewing and despite attempts to resuscitate , life was declared extinct.
I still have no connection between the Island in the River McLeay where the Sanders children were born and the Good Doctor – but I find him an interesting character.
In August 1832, Dr FATTORINI was coming into Sydney from Liverpool, in company with JOSHUA JOHN MOORE Esq. They were travelling on top of the coach when they saw a crowd of people gathered. There was EDWARD KENNEDY in custody of some constables. Straightaways, Dr F recognised the the greatcoat Kennedy wore as being the Doctor’s very own which had been stolen from his servant. Mr Moore joined in. THAT’S THE MAN THAT ROBBED ME – said he. Mr and Mrs Moore had been vigorously robbed of a good many things only a few days before whilst on the road.
Edward Kennedy, however, had witnesses, two of them, to say that he was with them and intoxicated ( a not uncommon condition of the times apparently). The witnesses did a less than effective job of convincing anyone of their veracity and Mr Kennedy was in deep trouble along with his perjuring mates.
In October 1832, the Doctor purchases a farm near the Orphan School At Parramatta. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2208970
The transaction ends up in the SUPREME COURT with disputes over the bills and deposit. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2209304
March 1833 sees DR FATTORINI back in the SUPREME COURT in SYDNEY. The case is FATTORINI vs UNDERWOOD.
Mr Underwood had refused to pay the Doctor for 90 visits he had made. The Judge does mention that Dr F does not appear to be a graduate of any Universities and is a mere surgeon. He does in the end win his case to the amount of 150 pounds.
In 1834 , he applied for 2 lots of over 600 acres each at Brisbane Water, Northumberland Shire. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2215174
The land was bounded on the South by Bean’s land , on the North by the section line and on the east by a line to include the quantity. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2215587
Still no indication of his having land as far north as the McLeay.
In March 1834 , 3 horses were impounded from the ESTATE OF DR FATTORINI. If they were not claimed by the 24th , Walter Schutt the Poundkeeper was going to sell them. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2215738
5 JULY 1834 SYDNEY GAZETTE http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2216550
Notwithstanding the late improvements made in the streets of Sydney, there is still great room for further amendment. From the recant rains, parts of Kent and Sussex streets, especially that portion of the former which lies between King and Market streets have become nearly ‘impassable, and several accidents to carriage and foot passengers have been the consequence. Dr. Fattorini a few days since was in great danger of being thrown out of his chaise from this circumstance, while making the tour of his professional visits in that quarter ; we trust therefore that no time will be lost in correcting this evil, of which the inhabitants residing in that neighbourhood loudly complain.
JAMES HAMAGE a servant in Dr F’s employ was brought before the court as a runaway. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2196957 Jan 1835. Sydney Gazette.
In the same month another assigned servant who ran away was apprehended . http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2197017
Thursday 5 February 1835 . DR FATTORINI HAS REMOVED TO NO 75 PITT-STREET. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2197251
This left the elegant verandah cottage he had previously occupied, available for rental. It was in Castlereagh=street – at a rental of 86 pounds per annum. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2197406
STILL NO CONNECTION TO THE MCLEAY. WE WILL RETURN TO THE GOOD DOCTOR AT A LATER DATE.
DR FATTORINI’S ASSIGNED SERVANTS ( In brackets after the name is the ship on which the convict arrived . If a number follows it indicates the 1st, 2nd , 3rd etc voyage of that ship to the Colony. )
|The first listing is a DR FATTORINI in Sydney in the SYDNEY GAZETTE of July 1832. He had been assigned a labourer GEORGE POTTER (Guildford 8).|
|DR FATTORINI is also assigned a tinman and brazier by the name of GEORGE COLLINS ( ROYAL GEORGE). DR FATTORINI is still in Sydney in August 1832. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2208207|
|In September 1832, JAMES GORDON (EXMOUTH) was assigned to Dr F as GROOM. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2208724|
|SAMUEL ASHMAN ( LADY HAREWOOD) was assigned to Dr F as a brickmaker. Dr F is listed as SYDNEY. 1832|
|SAMUEL PARKER (CAMDEN 2) assigned as bricklayer. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2211546 APRIL 1833|
|A carrier to Dr F. JULY 1833 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2212740|
|To Dr F a blacksmith http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2215740|
Jan Maurice descends from AGNES JANE TAYLOR. The parents of Agnes were WILLIAM SANDERS and MARY JANE SKIMMINGS ( Elsewhere recorded as MARY ANN SKIVINGS Name on birth certificate ). Agnes was born the 10th child on 9th July 1869 in Kinchela NSW.
From papers received from JAN and BARRY.
AGNES JANE TAYLOR
WILLIAM, her father, was an expert ploughman and was brought out to the Colony from DEVON UK for his skills. While in Kinchela he had a keen interest in rowing and was a champion oarsman who rowed in the Kempsey Regatta 1856 and entered many races. He was also known as Blackberry Bill as he spread the seeds around the Kempsey District.
The youngest brother of Agnes, CHRISTOPHER, was accidentally shot by his brother’s rifle on 3 January, 1882, when he was 9 years old. Mary Jane was a midwife in the district.
William died 19 December 1910 age 87 years and Mary died 13 November 1882 aged 52 years.
When Agnes was 22 she was living in “BROMPTON” Anson St Surry Hills. She was a domestic servant married in St Thomas Church of England Willoughby NSW , November 25th 1891 to Charles William Henry ( Bill) Taylor whose address was Appin , the Minister Stephen H Childe.
After the wedding they went to live in Appin on Elladale farm. Brooks Point Road, Appin. Every Saturday, she would drive the horse and sulky to Campbelltown so that their youngest son Barrington Walter could have piano lessons by Miss Vernon, then on Saturday nights he’d play for the local dance when still a teenager taking over from Bessie Dwyer. Their eldest son, William Harold joined the Army in 1916 as a 17 year old and served overseas, marrying Margaret ( Maggie) Yates when he was 21 years in Lancashire England.
Lionel ( Jack) stayed on the farm. Two girls married and moved to Queensland to live another daughter, Ellen, Mrs Gridley.
On the 9th April at 64 years Bill died and was buried in St Marks Cemetery, Appin. No headstone.
When Barrington married Phyllis Abbott in 23 December 1935, Agnes went to the wedding at St John’s Parramatta and the reception at the CAROLLIAN. Her address was Appin.
In her later years, Agnes came to live in Campbelltown with Lionel and his wife in 28 Chamberlain St Campbelltown. her younger sister Sarah with husband Robert Kitchings also lived in Campbelltown and when sarah died 15 February 1946, Agnes Jane was the last of William and Mary’s family alive. She was in her 80s but still did beautiful crocheting and knitting. Agnes died in Queensland 8th August 1951. Buried in Lutwyche Cemetery.
I have had information about the Sanders for years now but not put it together. Now I am accessing the Newspapers and understanding a little more of what was involved in the emigration/immigration process, I shall write out some of the details I have and see how they fit with the NLA Articles.
William Sanders married Mary Ann Skivings and they emigrated to Australia. They sailed from Plymouth on the ship VICTORIA and arrived in SYDNEY on September 4th, 1849 ( 100 years before I was born). Their shipping papers state that they had no relations living in the Colony ( this is disputed re THOMAS SANDERS at Appin but neither is verified by primary source as yet) . Dick Sanders found that the property at Appin to which they went on arriving was at PROSPECT ( now known as WENTWORTHVILLE) and was owned by THOMAS SANDERS who had 100 acres there. Elizabeth Grace, their first child was born there.
They then came north alone the NEW ENGLAND HIGHWAY looking for land. From ARMIDALE, they turned East to the Coast and came to the Macleay River. They moved about in this area for about 8 years before William purchased a block of 60 acres and paid 60 pounds. DATE AUGUST 13 – 1863.
Each of the children was given a block of land to make a living on. William finally transferred the land to two of his sons, WALTER THOMAS and EDRED JAMES on Nov 1 1898. These were two younger sons.
It was through SANDERS land that the road was re-routed to HAT HEAD to avoid swampland.
Dick Sanders said that where the school now stands was SANDERS property. Kinchela School.
HERE ARE SOME PERSPECTIVES OF IMMIGRATION AT APP THE SAME PERIOD. 1849. FROM THE NLA HISTORIC NEWSPAPERS.
The Maitland Mercury… Saturday 15 April 1848, page 2.
ARRIVAL OF IMMIGRANTS IN MAITLAND.
The Maitland Mercury… Wednesday 11 October 1848, page 1
The Maitland Mercury… Wednesday 3 January 1849, page 2.
|IMMIGRATION ISSUES 1849||
THE COLONIZATION SOCIETY.
MAITLAND MERCURY SATURDAY, JANUARY 13, 1849.
SIR-I came to Maitland last week for the purpose of hiring a few immigrants. I attended the places where they are quartered, and I could not see more, than six or eight at either place. In taking a ride over to West Maitland I met them in lots of six or eight, and numbers I saw taking their walks on the race-course. These walks ought to be taken at times so as not to inconvenience people that may come to hire these gentlemen. Some observations on this subject may cause such restrictions as will operate for the benefit of all parties.
sir, yours truly,
Newcastle, July 14, 1849.
The Maitland Mercury… Wednesday 18 July 1849, page 2.
The Maitland Mercury… Saturday 29 September 1849, page 2.
Contracts for 1850.- In the Government Gazette of Tuesday last appear the usual notices calling for tenders for supplies for the colonial service, in such quantities as may be required, during twelve months commencing 1st January, 1850; one notice calls for such tenders for districts within the boundaries, and the other for districts beyond the boundaries, and in both cases tenders will be received at the Colonial Secretary’s Office, Sydney, until twelve o’clock of Monday, 12th November. The districts within the boundaries which are comprised in the Hunter River and,northern districts, are Mudgee, Newcastle and Raymond Terrace, Dungog, Maitland, Wollombi and Macdonald River, Paterson, Patrick’s -Plains, Merton and Muswellbrook, Scone and Murrurundi, and Cassilis. The districts beyond the boundaries comprised in the same portion of the colony, are Bligh, Liverpool Plains, Gwydir, New England, Darling Downs, Clarence River, and Maranoa. In these latter districts it is noted, that the stations at which supplies will be required to be delivered, are-Dubbo, Canamble, and Wiabra, in the district of Bligh ; Tamworth, Wee Waa, and Pockataroo, in the district of Liverpool Plains; Warialda, in the district of Gwydir; Armidale, Wellingrove, and Tenterfield, in the district of New England ; Drayton and Warwick, in the district of Darling Downs ; Grafton and Tabulam, in the district of Clarence River ; in the district of Maranoa no stations are named.
Known Immigrants in the family at this time are :
|1839||JAMES MORGAN||JANET MACKAY AND CHILDREN INC WILHELMINA MCLEOD||SUTHERLAND SHIRE SCOTLAND||SYDNEY|
|1849||VICTORIA||WILLIAM SANDERS AND MARY ANN SKIVINGS (MARRIED COUPLE)||DEVON ENGLAND||SYDNEY|
|1853||BEEJAPORE||THOMAS CRAIG , PARENTS AND SIBLINGS||SYDNEY|
ARTICLES ON EMIGRATION/IMMIGRATION IN NLA NEWSPAPERS:
MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON IMMIGRATION. MAY l8, 1835
The Perth Gazette and… Saturday 10 June 1837, page 918
SYDNEY. IMMIGRATION COMMITTEE. (From the Sydney “Colonist . “
This committee report came out the year before Mary Ann and William Sanders came on the VICTORIA.
State Records Authority of New South Wales
Extracted from the:- “Concise Guide to State Archives of New South Wales
Shipping & Passenger Records
LIST OF SHIPPING SITES AND EMIGRATIONS.
The McLeods and Mackays perhaps from the Sutherland Shire !
3rd. In Scotland, and the north of Ireland, where no such contribution could be looked for, but where the lower classes, being more intelligent, industrious and frugal, would be better fitted for roughing it in a new colony, virtuous and industrious families of these classes would willingly bind themselves to pay that amount from the first of their savings after their arrival ; and if in the event of their purchasing land on credit from the Company, this debt were to be chargeable on the land, its repayment would be secured.
|Highland and Island Emigration Society, HIES
In fact, the obstructions, the suspense, and the jobbing of the present system, tend to destroy, the property, if not work the absolute ruin €of the poorer class of immigrants. An individual of this description on his arrival is forced to leave his family in Sydney, whilst he proceeds to explore the north, the south, or the westward, for a suitable location
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DEATH CERTIFICATE OF WILLIAM SANDERS 1910
WILLIAM SANDERS OBITUARY FROM MACLEAY ARGUS DECEMBER 23 1910.
A very old resident of the district in the person of Mr William Sanders of Kinchela passed away on Monday last at the ripe old age of 86 years. The deceased was born in Devonshire England in 1824 and came to the Macleay River in 18??. For the last 46 years the late Mr Sanders had resided at Kinchela. His wife died 28 years ago. The family of the deceased numbered 13 of whom 11 survived. His descendants number 171 – viz – 11 children ,95 grandchildren, and 65 great grand-children. The children are Mrs T Rowe (Kinchela Creek) Mrs W Taylor ( Appin), Mrs H Kintchen(Kitching) (Narellan), Mrs J Harris (Tweed River) Mr W C Sanders (Pilot Station), Mr F J Sanders, Mr W T Sanders, and Mr A E Sanders ( Kinchela Creek) Mr OH Sanders and Mr E A Sanders (Unkya) and Mr E J Sanders ( Frederickton). Mrs E Everson ( late of Kinchela) and Mr E C Sanders predeceased their father. The funeral took place at Frederickton Cemetery on Tuesday. A short service was held in the Kinchela Church by the Rev P S Young and Mr Young solemnised the last rites at the graveside. The burial arrangements were carried out by Mr C Walker.
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