THE HURRELLS

COURTESY OF BARB MILLER.

BARB HAS GENEROUSLY PROVIDED ME WITH THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION:

Lucy Jane Hurrell married Frederick Sanders. Lucy was descended from JOHN HURRELL and his second wife. JOHN HURRELL was born in 1828 in CAWSTON NORFOLK, to MARK and ELIZABETH HURRELL according to his immigration record. He also had cousins called JOHN HURRELL. Our JOHN died on 14 January 1908 on the MACLEAY RIVER NSW. 

John’s father was MARK HURRELL. Mark married twice. Elizabeth was his first wife.  Mary Warner was his second. He was an Agricultural  labourer living in Eastgate, Cawston in 1851 census. aged 53, widower with his son Thomas and Mark’s brother John aged 60 (pensioner- from services – Chelsea Hospital ) widower and John’s children Susanna and Ann M. I don’t know how many other children Mark had with either of his wives.

John married firstly to HARRIET TENPENNY ABBOTT in Holbeach Lincolnshire England in Mar 14 1849 ( Folio XIV page 561) then living at SUTTON CROSSES, SUTTON ST MARY LINCOLNSHIRE in 1851. Occupation Farm Labourer. Came to Australia on the BEEJAPORE in 1853 with Harriet. Dreadful conditions on this ship with many deaths and illnesses. Harriet died in 1853. John could read and write and paid two pound for his  and his wife’s passage to Australia.  On immigration records at State records NSW he was living in LONG SUTTON, Lincolnshire prior to emigration and knew noone in the colony. Mother Elizabeth deceased prior to his departure for Australia. No children of marriage to Harriet.

John remarried : ELLEN CROWE 26/11/1854 in Parish of St Lawrence in the County of Cumberland NSW. (C of E ) 677/41B. Witnesses: FREDERICK LOUIS WILLIAM HERRMANN of Castlereagh St Sydney, and JANE HERRMANN of Castlereagh St Sydney. Age 37. Occupation Farmer at time of Thomas’ birth in 1865. Buried FREDERICKTON CEMETERY McLeay River NSW Row M C of E Section.  ELLEN CROWE was the daughter of MICHAEL CROWE and was born in DUBLIN IRELAND in c 1831. She died at at McLeay River on 12/2/1899.

JOHN AND ELLEN HURRELL HAS THE FOLLOWING CHILDREN:

 

    BORN MARRIED DIED
1 JOHN 1855 SYDNEY   1875 MACLEAY RIVER
2 ELIZA MARY 12/2/1858 SYDNEY 3/8/1939 WILLIAM SANDERS  
3 LUCY JANE 1861 MACLEAY RIVER NSW FREDERICK SANDERS  
4 MARK 1862 MACLEAY RIVER RUTH HENRY 27/7/1910 MCLEAY RIVER
5 MARY 1863 WILLIAM PRICE  
6 THOMAS DENNIS 10 MAY 1865 KINCHELA CK ISABELLA SMAILES  
7 ELLEN MATILDA 1867 MCLEAY RIVER   1943 ASHFIELD NSW
8 JAMES 1869 MCLEAY RIVER   1946 LIVERPOOL
9 ANN 1872    
10 GEORGE 1873 MCLEAY RIVER   1875 MCLEAY RIVER

 

BARB MILLER TELLS ME THAT THE INFORMATION BELOW WAS GIVEN TO HER FROM YVONNE SZWEDYE’S WEBSITE “FOR THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE” ON ROOTSWEB. I WOULD PROVIDE A LINK BUT HAVEN’T BEEN ABLE TO LOCATE THE PAGE.  ( LET ME KNOW IF I CAN FIX THIS ONE UP )

THIS GENERATION BELOW IS MY OWN GRANDFATHER JOHN GEORGE’S .

 

THESE ARE THE CHILDREN OF LUCY JANE AND FREDERICK SANDERS.

    BORN MARRIED DIED
1 FREDERICK WILLIAM 13/2/1879 EUPHEMIA NELSON 27/7/1950
2 JOHN GEORGE 10/4/1881 ELIZABETH CRAIG 10/11/1950
3 MAUD EVELYN 13/6/1883   14/6/1954
4 CLARENCE MACLEAY 13/7/1885 BEATRICE DANGERFIELD 15/5/1960
5 META MAY 24/10/1887   29/8/1888
6 CLEMENT CONSTANT 15/9/1889 ELLEN WOODWARD 31/1/1961
7 JANIE 27/10/1894   4/8/1903
8 HERBERT BURDETT 6/11/1896   23/7/1916

 

 

 

 

 

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5 thoughts on “THE HURRELLS”

  1. Hi again Lynne… sorry I haven’t called… have been looking through my information to see if have anything that can fill some of the holes you have here.. I have a couple of death dates and places that you don’t have listed above, but you may have these elsewhere… You have filled a lot of holes for me though, thank you so much.
    I have been trying to find a copy of of Herbert Burdett’s service record, as my Pop told me (before he died) that Uncle Bertie died in France during the First World War, but I haven’t found anything confirming that he even served! Found one of the other brothers who made it back, but not him? Any thoughts?
    Will definitely speak to you soon.
    Cheers,
    Jen

  2. Jen , I know from Dad and from the Macleay Historical Society that Herbert Burdett served overseas and died there. Not, as I recall from wounds, but from illness in England. Those details will be someplace in my files and at the Historical Society in Kempsey. Will keep looking. Any info , as always appreciated. Yrs Lynne.

  3. Hi Jen, Just checked the AWM website and found more than I thought existed about Bert. I think its Grandma Sanders who writes about losing one son and 6 nephews. That’s LUCY JANE HURRELL SANDERS. Different story from what oral family history told me and very sad. Yrs Lynne.

    1. Hi Lynne,
      Just read the Service record and you’re absolutely right – it’s very sad. Must have been very difficult for his mum to consistently be told that they had no record of his final resting place.
      I know from other research that a lot of soldiers died of ilnesses in Pozierres, but my Pop always told me that he was killed in action – that’s why I was confused when I couldn’t find him. I was starting to think that my Pop was telling stories! No idea how I missed it before though – that’s a very extensive file.
      Thanks so much for your help with that one… greatly appreciated again.
      Jen

  4. Hi Lynne
    Your ancestry website is wonderful Lynne. Thank you for taking the time to painstakingly gather and share your research. I appreciate your generosity. I’m just starting to trace my Hurrell heritage and it’s been wonderful to read recent discussion between you and other Hurrell descendents/researchers on your website.
    I understand, though haven’t found NSW BDM birth records to support my assumption, that your grandmother, Lucy Jane Hurrell, was my great aunt. My maternal grandmother was supposedly her younger sister Ann who married Albert Dudley Johnston. They owned the Kinchela store, a photo of which is on your webpage ‘Images of Kinchela’.
    I’m a little cautious about assuming lineage here because I have a few gaps to fill in my understanding of my Hurrell lineage and three gaps in particular are Lucy Jane’s, Ann’s and Mark’s parentage and birth registrations. According to the listing, on your 20 August 2008 webpage under Barb Miller’s information, John and Ellen Hurrell had 10 children. I’ve only been able to find birth registrations on BDM for 7 – John, Eliza Mary, Mary, Thomas Dennis, Ellen Matilda, James and George.
    I can’t find registrations for Lucy Jane, Mark or Ann and would very much appreciate any clarification on their parentage and birth registrations. I understand there could be any number of reasons as to why these records are easily traceable.
    Prior to reading the list, I was somewhat unaware of Lucy Jane’s and Mark’s existence because I hadn’t been able to find their birth registrations on NSW BDM and also since my mother Sybil’s death in 1996, I haven’t had any surviving family members from whom I could learn more about my Hurrell connections. There is a birth registration (8143/1860) for a Lucy J. Hurrell, which you’ve referred to on your March 25 2008 webpage, born to John and Elizabeth Hurrell, not Ellen.
    According to your list Ann was born in 1872 however the only birth registration I’ve found that comes closest to Ann in the Kempsey – Macleay River area is for ‘Annie P’ born to Thomas D and Isabella Johnston in 1871 at Macleay River. I recall my late aunt Daisy Margaret Johnston (Ann and Dudley’s youngest daughter and twin sister to my mother Sybil) saying many years ago that she’d been unable to obtain a copy of Ann’s birth certificate. I’d started to wonder whether John and Ellen had adopted Ann as I can’t find evidence her birth. Ann died at Ashfield in 1955 and her BDM death record (631/1955) lists her parents as John and Ellen. BDM’s record (3266/1985) of her marriage to Albert Dudley Johnston at Kempsey gives Ann’s surname as Hurrell.
    My BDM birth registration searches for Mark also haven’t returned any results.
    Mark and Ruth Hurrell were parents to three children Herbert, Elsie and Ruth. I had a lot of contact with Elsie when I was a child because she was a frequent visitor to my Nanna Ann’s house in Haberfield, Sydney.
    I’ve recently looked through old family photos and found a photo of Lucy Jane with the inscription in Daisy’s handwriting ‘Aunty Lucy’ taken at around the time of your photo of Grandma Lucy Sanders and the aunts. I have another small photo of either Ann or it could be Ellen (also taken around the same time as the photos featuring Lucy and the aunts) who I understand from Mum lived with Ann and her family when they moved from Kempsey to Haberfield, Sydney. I’ve also found a photo of a Mrs D Hurrell, Jerseyville although I haven’t traced her lineage as yet. I’d be very happy to share these photos with you when I can get my scanner working!

    Warm regards

    Judy Zappacosta

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